<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi, Etienne<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I took a look for the below host configuration parameter (IndirectData), the default is no. For the below example:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A ConnectTo B, B ConnectTo C:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If IndirectData = no (default), then A wouldn’t establish direct connection with C, but will be forwarded by B.</div><div class="">If IndirectData = yes, then A will try to establish direct connection with C, even though A don’t have the statement of ConnectTo = C</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><dt style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">IndirectData = <yes|no> (no)</dt><dd style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><p class="">This option specifies whether other tinc daemons besides the one you specified with ConnectTo can make a direct connection to you. This is especially useful if you are behind a firewall and it is impossible to make a connection from the outside to your tinc daemon. Otherwise, it is best to leave this option out or set it to no.</p></dd><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also in Main configuration there’s another parameter (DirectOnly), the default is no, to continue the above example:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A ConnectTo B, B ConnectTo C:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If DirectOnly = no(default), and IndirectData = no(default): A can only sent data to B, and B will forwarded to C.</div><div class="">If DirectOnly = no(default), and IndirectData = yes: A will try to send data directly to C, but if A can’t send to C directly, then B will help to forward</div><div class="">If DirectOnly = yes, and IndirectData = no(default): A can’t connect with C</div><div class="">If DirectOnly = yes, and IndirectData = yes: A will try to send data directly to C, but if A can’t sent to C directly, B wouldn’t help to forward.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My understanding right?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><dt style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">DirectOnly = <yes|no> (no) [experimental]</dt><dd style="font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><p class="">When this option is enabled, packets that cannot be sent directly to the destination node, but which would have to be forwarded by an intermediate node, are dropped instead. When combined with the IndirectData option, packets for nodes for which we do not have a meta connection with are also dropped.</p></dd><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 May 2017, at 6:33 PM, Etienne Dechamps <<a href="mailto:etienne@edechamps.fr" class="">etienne@edechamps.fr</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Yes. Look up the "IndirectData" configuration option.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 May 2017 at 11:30, Bright Zhao <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:startryst@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">startryst@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi, Etienne<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In addition, is there any option or switch can turn of the automatic direct connection? For the example below, even A has the route to C and can establish UDP connection directly, but I need the traffic to go through B, how can I achieve that easily? (instead of remove something from A’s routing table, or manually block the connection between A and C)</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 May 2017, at 6:28 PM, Bright Zhao <<a href="mailto:startryst@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">startryst@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-2501518421405339512Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi, Etienne<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Exactly, I just did the test, remove the Subnet = X/32 from B, so I understood that the Subnet on host configuration is indicate local attached network, or let’s call it when going outside of the VPN domain.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And yes, A will try to establish UDP connection direct to C (if it has the route), so the first time, I can ping from A to X, and I found the traffic didn’t go through B, but second time, I remove the C route from A’s routing table, then the traffic sent to B, and B sent to C; which exactly the same as you indicate below.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you very much, this makes me much better understanding on Tinc.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 May 2017, at 6:23 PM, Etienne Dechamps <<a href="mailto:etienne@edechamps.fr" target="_blank" class="">etienne@edechamps.fr</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-2501518421405339512Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">There is no concept of "client" or "server" in tinc. tinc is purely peer-to-peer. "ConnectTo" statements only indicate which node will attempt to establish the initial connection, but once the connection is established, direction does not matter.<br class=""><br class=""></div>It is unclear from your message which node is responsible for which subnet. If X/32 truly belongs to C, then simply set Subnet = X/32 in C's local host file. If you do that, then C will advertise this subnet to the rest of the network, including B and A. There is no need to change anything in B's configuration. tinc will take care of the routing for you, and A will be informed (through the tinc protocol) that the subnet belongs to C, and that any packets meant for X should therefore be sent to C.<br class=""><br class="">These packets will then be sent directly to C using UDP (tinc is clever and will try various NAT traversal techniques). If that's not possible for any reason, tinc will automatically fall back to relaying packets through B.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 May 2017 at 11:00, Bright Zhao <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:startryst@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">startryst@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, Tinc experts<br class="">
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Diagram as below, A is trying to access host X behind C:<br class="">
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A >> B >> C — “host X"<br class="">
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B is the tinc server for A, but also B is the tinc client to connect to C.<br class="">
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My question is, if I only use one VPN (/etc/tinc/myvpn), then the host configuration for B will be tricky.<br class="">
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As the tinc server to A, B’s host config (/etc/tinc/myvpn/hosts/B) needs have the Subnet = X/32, which indicate the VPN serve for this host.<br class="">
But as the tinc client to C, B’s host config shouldn’t include Subnet = X/32, because X/32 is behind C.<br class="">
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If not direct connection available from A to C, the only way I can figure it out is to setup two VPNs, /etc/tinc/vpn1 and /etc/tinc/vpn2:<br class="">
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A >> vpn1 >> B >> vpn2 >> C — “host X”<br class="">
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If so, the /etc/tinc/vpn1/hosts/B can have Subnet =X/32; but the /etc/tinc/vpn2/hosts/B can exclude Subnet =X/32 since it’s the client side for C.<br class="">
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Let me know if there’s any other simple way to achieve this.<br class="">
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